DiT Forum at AMA house on Thursday 5th March 2015.

Greetings all,

In light of recent deaths amongst our Victorian DiTs, a small working party has formed, and a decision has been made to hold a forum on Thursday 5th March 2015 at 7pm at AMA House, Parkville.

This is short notice but it was decided that it would be prudent to hold the meeting sooner rather than later as we are aware of impending examination timetables.

I am involved because I was a DiT not long ago, used to be a president of the AMA(Vic) DiT subdivison and around when there were some suicides amongst our friends about 10 years ago. What came of similar forums was the establishment of the AMA peer support service.

I have never shied away from being outspoken and an advocate for all DiTs including medical students. DiTs are a large, invaluable, resourceful and caring group of the medical profession.

DiT’s also get very bogged down in making to the ‘ticket’. They work hard and endure a lot to get good reports and pass exams.

Despite being a large group of the medical workforce DiTs can feel alone.

I have been vocal recently about what I do know. 4 DiT’s including 3 psychiatry registrars are no longer with us. There is and probably will always be conjecture and a lack of understanding about why they are no longer with us. These deaths may be unrelated or there may be a factor that ties more than one.

We don’t know unless we start talking. 

And even if we do not know, we may be able to use this tragedy, and it is a tragedy, to regroup so trainees can tell those that want to listen exactly how it is to be a DiT nowadays.

We may uncover that other DiTs working in the 4 sites where they lost colleagues are not coping with the news. They may be struggling too. There may be systemic or their may be local issues.This is not about blame, it’s about guiding future discussions that hopefully will implement real change.

AMA (Victoria) and its senior officebearers, including the current AMA(Victoria) president, Dr Tony Bartone, and past presidents have stepped up to hear about this from the time we all heard about the deaths of 4 DiT’s since January 2015.

AMA(Victoria) have kindly offered to host the meeting and provide facilitators to assist the discussion.

I will be there because I want to know as well.

It’s Ok to say if you are not coping, or if you can see others not coping.

Please attend, regardless of your involvement in the passing of 4 DiT’s and especially if you are affected by the news. You do not have to be an AMA member to attend.

RSVP here

Please see your GP, or contact the Victorian Doctors Health Program via AMA(Victoria) if you need more formal support.

See you Thursday,


Supervision versus mentorship What we don’t learn in medical school, but find out from the school of life.

I was a pretty outspoken registrar during my psychiatry training. That’s a comment that has been levelled at me many times. Along with the one about caring ‘too much’. Self-reflection revealed that this was a combination of being passionate, as well as trying to transition from a life where I worked as a pharmacist to one of a medical student. I was older than many of my peers and also some of my ‘seniors’ which proved very difficult for me. In addition, I had worked in very senior roles and did not quite fit the paternalistic mould of master and student. And I knew that although I knew a lot about pharmacy, I had a load to learn about medicine.

Because of these reasons, I recognised early that if I was going to succeed at being a doctor I would have to go out and find some like-minded individuals to get the support I needed.  I needed mentors to guide me to and beyond training years. I needed this as importantly as my professional training

And then I was accepted into psychiatry training. A large part of my training occurred on the job and in lecture theatres but also as part of what I would come to know as supervision. Peers training in other specialities regard psychiatrists to have a layer of support they might not have because of this formal component to psychiatry training known as supervision. This article reveals my impression regarding why this is often not the case, what can go well and not so well in supervision, and above all else, why one mustn’t confuse supervision with mentorship.

Supervision in psychiatry is as old as psychiatry itself. But it was never designed for support. Classical supervision would occur behind closed doors and be a vehicle for further exploration of what Freud described as the ‘transference’, that is, the dynamics of the interaction between patient and therapist. In these early times, supervision allowed another psychiatrist, aka the ‘supervisor’ to interpret and analyse the treating psychiatrists’ feelings about the case, and the dynamics at play between the treating psychiatrist and their patient. The supervisor was kind of like a fly on the wall in the therapy session yet a on a wall down the corridor and about 2 days later. Maybe a Venn diagram would help explain this dynamic as well. It’s tricky.

Yes, so much of early psychiatric diagnosis and even today is about interpretation of what is said and the way it is said by the patient. Having a supervisor in modern times is still based on these foundations. When you are primarily involved in the care of a patient, ie a consultant psychiatrist, you seek out a supervisor to discuss complex cases. Such as patients that don’t seem to be responding, challenge what else you can try, and explore why you feel a certain way about a patient and how they respond to you. (I am hoping Freud is looking down on me and ensuring I have this correct).

The reason I labour this is because supervision in the strictest sense is not about your stuff. It is not about how you are, what is annoying you this week, and how your own personal life interplays with professional duties. These more personal conversations occur between a person who just happens to be a psychiatrist and a mentor.

And then there is the role of a supervisor during psychiatry training, as set out by the training college for all registrars, the RANZCP. As part of training, registrars move sites and roles ever 3-6 months and are lucky (or unlucky as I will explain) to have the same role for a year. Each time they are rotated through, they get to meet their new supervisor who is invariably their consultant, ie, boss. Their direct report, the one who hopefully engages in meaningful bedside teaching, dispels some myths about psychiatry and shares anecdotes over coffee in the hospital cafeteria. These supervisors may be swamped by all the forms they need to fill out about your progress, which is given to the college of psychiatrists, and they may be good or not so good at giving feedback. They are often busy consultant psychiatrists who juggle public and private practice work, their own lives, hospital administration and whatever else. They may have all the time in the world for you, or they may encroach on your dedicated supervision session times (which should be protected) because they are consumed by the tasks of service provision. No matter what, however, by the time you work out what they are like, it will be time to move to the next rotation.

This is important to note because it is a trap for young players to presume the role of supervisor before getting feedback about how they see and perform their role. They may be somebody you see only once a week, they might be very hands on, or they might not have a lot of time to teach you. They may not be the best people to tell if you are struggling as they are also the ones that fill in your progress reports.

Don’t get me wrong. I have some outstanding colleagues and friends in my life whom I aspire to be like and would never have met if it wasn’t for the fact that fate sent me to a rotation where they would be waiting for me. But the key is, you need time to work out which ones these are. This takes time and experience. Just as Freud would sit back and observe, we also need to do the same with our supervisors. And then make considered decisions about what we disclose and what we leave for others.

In some cases, clashes can occur between supervisor and registrar and during these times it is very hard to identify a mediator. Often it’s about waiting out the rotation, hoping that the feedback isn’t too harsh and trying to move on. I have been on occasion quite vulnerable in some supervision sessions that have occurred behind closed doors. What made it worse was that I discovered I wasn’t the only registrar to feel that way with that particular supervisor. But sadly, nothing often changes and registrars do rely on the ‘get out’ clause of the weeks ticking by till the next move.

Supervisors also have a role to play in protecting the public and reporting up if they feel a registrar is impaired. This is an extremely difficult situation for everybody not least the supervisor who is concerned. Often systems are bad at handling these situations. Often the people most in need of support find it lacking. At the pointy end, some supervisors without adequate support themselves may fall into a role of trying to treat the registrar as if they were a patient, or somebody to rescue. These blurring of boundaries can lead to harm, they can happen insidiously and cause devastating outcomes.

So hence, my advice is to find mentors. Mentors can be absolutely anybody within and without medicine. In this era of social media I now have mentors I have never met in real life, who send me private messages and make me feel connected at times of vulnerability. Some mentors come and go, often to plant knowledge and wisdom within you that you will share with others over time.

My wonderful example of this was a lovely medical registrar who was working on night shift alongside me when I was a frightened resident, sleep deprived and about to throw my never ending buzzing pager at the wall. It was about 5.30am on the fifth night of night shift in a row and it felt like time had stood still. As often happens in the early hours of the morning, multiple patients experience cardiac and respiratory symptoms requiring urgent attention all at the same time. Unless you have experienced it, it is hard to comprehend how surreal the combination of sleep deprivation and terror really feels.

So as we were sorting out the latest complex case (well he was sorting out and I was doing what I was told), he looked over at me, must have recognised I was in that crazy sleep deprived/terrified/surreal state and said

“You know, they can hurt us but they can’t stop the clock”

In that moment I knew he got me. He got the sheer frustration of a system that makes you work in such difficult circumstances and he was reassuring me that it would end. Because I had forgotten that at some point I would go home to reality.

That person became my hero and my mentor for the rest of the nights I was on duty.

So in summary, when thinking about supervision and mentorship, perhaps have a think about the following:

  • Just because psychiatry registrars have supervision does not mean they have support, or are more resilient than other folks in medicine. In psychiatry, the concept of supervision is much more complex than this.
  • Nobody teaches you how to work out which supervisor you will tell what to, that’s up to you to discern. In the meantime, form your own opinion.
  • Sit back a lot and work out why you have chosen certain people in your career that you want to aspire to be like in medicine.
  • Tap those same people on the shoulder and ask if you can meet with them for a coffee sometime
  • Have the utmost respect for anybody who comes along after you that you may mentor, and needs help working out who they trust and respect as well. Work out which camp you are in. Declare your conflicts of interest up front so they can work out how to relate to you. If you are supervising and having a direct impact on their progress through training, perhaps you just aren’t the best person to be a mentor. But maybe, when that conflict has disappeared and the registrar has moved on, you can be.

Dr Helen Schultz is a consultant psychiatrist and mentor of doctors in training. She wrote about her experiences as a psychiatry registrar in her new book, How Shrinks Think. She was recently a part of Radio Nationals Background Briefing documentary regarding doctors in distress. Helen loves being a mentor but it has to involve good coffee.

Mandatory reporting and doctor’s health. Friend or foe. ABC Background briefing today.

I have taken part in a documentary on ABC RN Background Briefing today, and I will write more posts to follow. A compelling, confronting discussion about the constant concerns of doctor’s health, the factors at play, and raw accounts of the effects of completed suicides on partners, families, colleagues and patients. Particular reference was made to the impact of recent laws around mandatory reporting as set down by the national regulatory body, AHPRA.

Well done to Ann Arnold for an amazing documentary. She has put together a depth and breadth of opinion from key people either directly affected or in leadership roles within the medical community.

My hope is that this discussion continues out of respect for the recent tragic loss of 4 colleagues in Victoria, for those that we don’t know about or those that can be prevented if the correct help is provided in a caring, professional and confidential manner.

My next post will be about the role of supervision and mentorship, and why they can’t be seen as the same thing.


Taking it for the team

I used this bold saying for a blog post that grabbed a lot of attention. You can see it here.

I have been quoted in the Age today and the Sydney Morning Herald, expressing my utter sadness and helpleness to hear the news through the grapevine that 4 of our best and brightest, 3 psych registrars and and intern doing a psych rotation have passed away ‘unexpectedly’ in the last 2 weeks.

As a fellow of the RANZCP I have not been forwarded any correspondence from my professional governing body. I heard about these deaths via friends and registrars I know and mentor through the courses I have run since 2008. I have met over 200 psych trainees across Australia and NZ, see a lot of international medical graduates and hear how they are going as they pass through their training.

I completely understand that unless a full physical and psychological autopsy is performed on each person, we will not know exactly why they may have died. I admit I don’t know the names of 3 of the doctors or if I may have known them.

This is what I know:

My heart breaks because I knew one through psych training and saw it on Facebook. I remember him to be a vivacious, caring, smart, down to earth doctor who was very good at internal medicine as well, and conducted himself in a very inclusive manner, always helping others. I know he would have made a top psychiatrist. I know he was only months away from doing that.

I  also know as a recent trainee myself that when bad things happen, there is no room to step down and get the help you need. All the verbal corrspondence and speeches about offering ‘support’ will not give a trainee permission to stay home, bawl their eyes out, question their own stuff and be totally distracted from their daily tasks. Especially those who worked alongside these poor doctors and may have known they were struggling and wondered what else they could have done.

I know that this week marks a new rotation and with these deaths there will be no locums appointed to fill their allocated positions. Those who will be expected to pick up the load will invariably be the same doctors who have been rocked by the news, including registrars and consultant psychiatrists.

I know that on Sunday when I opened my doors at 394 Church St Richmond those who came felt like me.

I know that as a junior reg I learnt the hard way what can happen when you speak up and speak out when you think things aren’t right.

I know I learnt as a senior reg to seek out those I trusted who have remained my closest and dearest friends in my training, and only confide in them.

I know that if I was sitting my college exams in an environment where I was examined within my own networks where  I may have been criticised as being a ‘trouble maker’ when I advocated, I would expect to fail and my anxiety would be through the roof.

I know other professions feel like us. That’s why we have bi-national examinations where we know we won’t run into an examiner who know us, so therefore we can expect to be treated objectively so we can get on with the task.

I know I have a brilliant GP who gets having a doctor as a patient and I trust her with everything. I see her regularly. Even this Friday actually.

I know that all week I am so saddened yet I only knew one and a long time ago, because I can’t help reflecting about my journey as a psych reg. The journey I wrote about in ‘How Shrinks Think’ The journey that has taken me a lot of time and reflection to come to terms with.

I know there is a life after training, and it is a wonderful life. I love being a psychiatrist and using my skills to help my patients good times and bad, with the support of my peers and supervisors when times get tough.

I want psych trainees to know that I am available on (03) 9428 8321 and implore you to take time out if you need it. See your GP. If you don’t know of any that are great at being doctors to doctors, ask me. Do it for your patients as well, who currently need your utmost attention and care. The system can work itself out. You have my permission.

Please take care,